Videos of Aeolus Sailing

Aeolus FWB28
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Joined: 26 Aug 2006

Hello all. Some kind people took some great video clips of me sailing Aeolus. I have put some on You Tube. Here are the links...should any not work then click on show all users posts in You Tube and you should find the others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH237vYgBw4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9sQwmICmJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTV02HRFTL8&mode=user&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r692iN6-AEM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsB8o9xoFQo

Colin Stroud
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Joined: 25 Aug 2006

Thanks. Here is another video by the same author http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zHyBSR4Xjpk which is a record of the "East Coast Race" for classic boats. There is a two second clip of me sailing my Heard 23 "Plum" single handed in the race. See if you can spot us?

Colin

Tony Nelson
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Joined: 11 Oct 2006

Here is an interesting set of videos of someone sailing around the UK in a small 19 footer. The videos are well edited and narrated and may appear on TV. Make sure you take a look.

His initial page has a short video of a Gaff rig get together with over 50 gaff rigged boats.

http://www.youtube.com/user/KeepTurningLeft

This yachtsman has also had a few good sailing trips on the fal in our Gaffers & Luggers boats.

He mentions sailing in Picarooner Piglet which has apparently been sold and gone to Ireland.

I wish him all the best in his endeavours.

Colin Stroud
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Joined: 25 Aug 2006

Different boat, I know, but I have the ST2000+ on my 23'FWB "Plum". Although I have had water ingress into the tillerpilot just after the warranty expired and so am not happy with Raymarine right now (but still negotiating on who should pay) I would like to say that I am extremely happy with the Raymarine S100 wireless autopilot controller, which works with the ST4000 too.

It enables me to, for example, tweak the heading to maintain head-to-wind while I am standing at the mast about to lower the main. This is great when single-handed and makes it easy to drop the boom straight into the gallows.

Colin

Aeolus FWB28
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Joined: 26 Aug 2006

The ref unit is permanently fixed, I will email photos of the set up. The max tiller angle for the ref unit is 60deg either side...this is not a problem.

Brian Neale
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Joined: 03 Sep 2006

Did some measuring of my aft deck on Sunday and found that the boom gallows are exactly where the tiller pilot mountings should go! However, I can go a little nearer the rudder pivot and avoid that - just need to work out if it's best to mount a fixed socket on the aft deck like Aeolus or fit a removable horizontal mounting to the inside of the bulwark. I think that a deck-mounted socket might be too close to the cleat but I need to double-check - I think that Raymarine make a removable "pillar" socket that might do the trick as long as there is room for its mounting plate.

Do you keep the rudder ref unit permanently connected to the tiller? I presume that it has enough travel to cope with the full tiller travel?

Aeolus FWB28
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Joined: 26 Aug 2006

Well I talked to a supplier and he said it was ok to fit the ref unit to the S1. I think you will find that the autopilot will respond better to the rudder feedback than to the rate gyro. They're heavy boats and slow to turn.
I may well be able to tell you since either my rudder unit or that bit of the ST4000 computer has failed ! I've got a new ref unit, if that doesnt cure it I shall buy the S1 gyro system---and fit the rudder feedback !

I found with the ST4000 that the rudder feedback is essential for the pilot to function in all conditions. When I talked to Raymarine about the problems I had with the ST4000 they said the Rudder Ref unit would fix it. They were right.
I'm sure it's because the boats have a slow response to rudder movement that this bit is required

Brian Neale
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Joined: 03 Sep 2006

To quote Raymarine, "The S1 TillerPilot has a built in Gyro (yaw sensor) which measures the boat’s rate of turn. This allows the autopilot to operate without a rudder reference unit."

I'm not saying that they are necessarily correct in that it will depend on boat characteristics but presumably this is the result of some experience. Interestingly, the wheel pilot version does not have a rate gyro but does have a rudder position sensor. I also have a Raymarine radar/chart plotter and one reason for going the Raymarine route for the autopilot is that it provides an electronic compass for more accurate chart/radar overlay. They recommend a gyro for better short-term accuracy for that as well. Mind you, even without, I haven't managed to get lost in the Solent yet!

Anyway, it's all academic until I get round to fitting one - and that will depend on what happens when I shake the piggy-bank...

Aeolus FWB28
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Joined: 26 Aug 2006

I use the same trick for the staysail sheets.

I reckon you still need the rudder ref unit for the S1 pilot, even with the rate gyro. Would be interesting to see it without but its so easy to fit one I would still have it. My pilot steers the boat in all conditions and points of sail.

Brian Neale
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Joined: 03 Sep 2006

Ah! Autotack button on the pilot! I knew that I'd forgotten something!

Yes, in principle, that's what I do. I tend to let the jib fly while tacking and whip the staysail across smartly as soon as it looks like backing so as not to lose too much way. Then get the jib in. Runners get changed as and when, but I am a little limited in movement in the cockpit as I need my backside to hold the tiller across while handling sheets... A key part of the process is having previously rigged a line from an eye at the front of the mast at around gooseneck height to the anchor windlass. Said line has a length of hose on it to act as a roller to help the staysail sheets across without getting hung up on the belaying pins at the foot of the mast. Without that, the process is the same but includes a trip to the foredeck halfway through!

Actively started looking at autopilots again. The new Raymarine replacement for the ST4000 has a built-in rate gyro which, they claim, removes the need for a rudder reference sensor. At the moment, if I stop in clear water to drop sails before motoring back to the marina I can lose around 30mins sailing (and given the prevailing wind round here that is often a gentle little broad reaching bimble), but if I sail back to the marina entrance there is only limited space to let the boat drift while dropping sails (and hence running aground last season). An autopilot would let me motor gently in a straight line while keeping watch from the foredeck, and if the tide is right that would mean virtually standing still over the ground.

Aeolus FWB28
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Joined: 26 Aug 2006

Hi Brian, some friends came sailing over and kindly took them.
My set up like yours with 4 winches. So to tack.....

1 Push Autotack on the pilot !!

2 Release Backstay off rear winch

3 Release Jibsheet off other rear winch

4 Set up new backstay

5 Put on Jibsheet

6 Allow Staysail to back and help turn boat

7 Release Staysail sheet from front winch

8 Put on Staysail sheet

Which is probably what you do too !

Brian Neale
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Joined: 03 Sep 2006

Good pictures, Steve! I have some stills of Victoria Ruth taken from Doris of Mylor when I was out on sea trials (we happened to meet somewhere in Carrick Roads), but getting video footage puts you one up on most of us.

Was it planned in advance, or did it just happen?

I was trying to watch the sequence of actions when you were going about (always ready to steal ideas from other people...) but it's not quite clear enough for that.


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