Re-deck a 28

Paul Sullivan
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Joined: 09 Mar 2017

Isabella Ellen FWB-28 has suffered from chronic lack of use (my fault) and from the rash decision to fit a teak deck (not my fault!) As a result, she recently became a "site of special scientific interest" for the variety and aggression of the fungi that took residence. Suffice to say that my boatbuilder and I fought a heroic retreat - armed only with crowbar and chequebook - until we found enough solid timber to make a last stand.

Has anyone else undertaken a full re-deck of a 28 ?  What sort of man-hours should I guess at? All the cockpit sole and lockerage has come out too - as has half the coachroof and half the bunks.  

I'm torn between saving as much as I can or starting afresh with more of a free hand on layout.  My starting point, I think, is to get to a "sailaway" state and worry about the insides later.  

Paul.

Paul Sullivan
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Joined: 09 Mar 2017

Thank you to Henrik and Aeolus for the helpful advice. I, too, remember the Dutch website detailing a re-deck from some time back but I don't remember the details either.  And I will certainly seek out prior experience at the OGA.

Isabella was massively refitted back in 1999 by a well respected South West yard.  Sadly, they screwed a beautiful teak deck through the sheathing into the ply sub-deck and, over time, water penetrated extensively.  The cockpit suffered badly too, not helped by interesting choices of material and novel building techniques in the original structure. (Offer me beer and I'll tell you where to look in your 28.)

I now have a rather large rowing boat - well almost!  The hull is great, the engine is new, the gear is good, the rig is great, the sails are .... well, you can't have everything. Henrik's man-hours estimate is scary - though not surprising. I am hoping that, having ripped almost everything out, the re-build might be easier.  There's certainly space to swing a saw.

All comments welcome.

Paul

Henrik Nor-Hansen
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Joined: 27 Oct 2013

I think there was a website about a Heard 28 in Holland. The owner did the decks, but I can't find the site...

Aeolus FWB28
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Joined: 26 Aug 2006

Paul, I tried to reply some months ago but I'm having trouble with the site. Hopefully it will work now.

I would contact John Gallagher of the Old Gaffers Association  editorATsouthwestgaffers.org.uk

He rebuilt one of the early 28s, Margaret Burton.

 

Henrik Nor-Hansen
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Joined: 27 Oct 2013

My formula for estimating boatwork hours is what I initially believe, multiplied by five.

We found rot in the plywood under the portlights, huge parts of the cockpit, the whole rudder and around most of the hardware on deck. Screws and bolts were going directly into the ply, leading down water and spreading rot. It's crucial that a plywood superstructure has a watertight seal, even with marine plywood. No leak should ever be accepted.That's why every screw-hole should be pre-drilled with a bigger dimension, filled with epoxy, and drilled again.

We have been rebuilding for about 5 months now, working seven days a week, and we're still not done. A major work, but we want to do it right. I will go into more details later on, when we are done.

A tip: teak decks should never be screwed down on plywood, only glued!


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