Thanks for your reply, being a believer in KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) that's what I like, simple solutions. Looking at your photo, it appears that you have no forestay and rely on the jib halyard only to hold the mast upright, am I correct in my observation?...
Our boat has two small "kiddy" berths above the double in the fore cabin. This enables two adults to sleep with 2 kids and leaves the saloon for two singles or a double for guests.
The rush for the heads in the morning is fun to watch though with 6 on board.
Having considered information provided by others owners on this 'forum subject' it may be possible for me to fit one or two pipe cots above the saloon seats/berths in any boat (if excisiting layout allows) so my search for a boat is not restricted to a long coach roof and aft quarter berth....
Thanks for that information which i had never considered. I assume two pipecot berths could be fitted to port and starboard and would be ideal for two of my smaller children. I would be very grateful if you could PM me some pictures of the set up so i could consider fitting...
"No two boats are the same" was the catchphrase for the Heard boats. I have never seen a 28 with a quarter berth so if you should find one I hope you will submit some interior photos for the website.
Graham - given that they are usually stainless steel wire (about 6mm, I think, on my 28) I would have thought that almost any chain would have been strong enough. 4mm chain links would have about the same cross-sectional area as 6mm wire, which is how I would do the comparison. Can you find a...
Henrik I have put 2 photos of hull lines in the Gallery section. Poor quality I'm afraid but I hope they are of use. A friend made a half model of Aeolus using them.
hi Colin I ordered the new rigging before your post. Chap at the chandlers (a rigger) recond on 5mm As the lenght is a bit hit and miss I have gone for Swagles fitting at the base swaged at the top (as I can not check it). So set up is 6mm twin forestays, 5mm fore shroud 6mm...
Graham, my Heard 23 "Plum" was built by Martin with two shrouds per side and no backstage. A few years ago I replaced the stays and checked the loading, using the formulas in the Riggers Apprentice book By Brion Toss which showed that the original 6mm 7x7 were boarder line but 6mm 1x19...
I last saw Estren when she was sitting in Martin Heard's yard, being wrapped up before being shipped to Canada.
Somewhere in the files I have a few pictures of Estren being prepared, and a copy of the inventory when she was sold shortly afterwards. I see that she had a waterproof forward...
We're buying Eliza, former Estreen, in Canada. It's from 1997 and I do expect some minor problems with the water barrier over the ply. However, I haven't seen the boat (except pictures), and no survey yet. But I'll do a serious refit after some months sailing.
They had the usual continuity problems with filming at sea - successive shots would vary between port and starboard tack, for example! On the whole, though, I thought it was well done.
As for jib sheets - mine are led between the shrouds as this gives the most direct path when close-...
Bowsprit - I haven't been out in really big seas but when I sailed in the Solent we often had very short, steep seas and occasionally Victoria Ruth would bury her bowsprit as far as the stemhead. However, the bowsprit itself does not have much drag, and as the jib is cut fairly high, the sail...
I believe that my (28) mast was made from a couple of pieces of pine glued together, giving what is effectively a solid mast. They routed a slot down the aft face and then glued in a cover strip to leave a cable "trunk" running the length of the mast. I think the cover strip stops short of the...
Usual guideline (bit like foresail sheets, etc) is to use whatever you think you can comfortably grip, as even a relatively small diameter is strong enough. Size is usually dictated by comfortable handling. From memory, I think my "28" halyards (all the same) are 12mm three-strand hemp-look...
My 28 has both - the yard installed wiring down the mast as per Aeolus (not surprising as they were built side-by-side!) but I have added extra bits that needed additional wires that weren't going to be easy to add to the mast channel, including sidelights attached to the shrouds. I have a deck-...
Hi Tony,
Thanks for your reply, being a believer in KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) that's what I like, simple solutions. Looking at your photo, it appears that you have no forestay and rely on the jib halyard only to hold the mast upright, am I correct in my observation?...
HI Keith
You could just use stainless quick release type clips or biners.
The bowsprit is easy to stow and it would only take a minute to secure the stay.
all the best
Tony
Our boat has two small "kiddy" berths above the double in the fore cabin. This enables two adults to sleep with 2 kids and leaves the saloon for two singles or a double for guests.
The rush for the heads in the morning is fun to watch though with 6 on board.
One limitataion is that...
Having considered information provided by others owners on this 'forum subject' it may be possible for me to fit one or two pipe cots above the saloon seats/berths in any boat (if excisiting layout allows) so my search for a boat is not restricted to a long coach roof and aft quarter berth....
Have sent email, check your junk!
Steve
Hi Steve
Thanks for that information which i had never considered. I assume two pipecot berths could be fitted to port and starboard and would be ideal for two of my smaller children. I would be very grateful if you could PM me some pictures of the set up so i could consider fitting...
Hello Julian, welcome to the Forum.
"No two boats are the same" was the catchphrase for the Heard boats. I have never seen a 28 with a quarter berth so if you should find one I hope you will submit some interior photos for the website.
My 28 has a pipecot berth above the port berth...
Nice to know he is back on his Heard again.
Colin
Hello Simon.
Not sure if you will be helped here, however you may have more luck on theYBW classic forum
http://www.ybw.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?88-Classic-and-wooden-boats
Graham - given that they are usually stainless steel wire (about 6mm, I think, on my 28) I would have thought that almost any chain would have been strong enough. 4mm chain links would have about the same cross-sectional area as 6mm wire, which is how I would do the comparison. Can you find a...
Henrik I have put 2 photos of hull lines in the Gallery section. Poor quality I'm afraid but I hope they are of use. A friend made a half model of Aeolus using them.
Regards, Steve
2nd try with the pics
BTTT
hi Colin I ordered the new rigging before your post. Chap at the chandlers (a rigger) recond on 5mm As the lenght is a bit hit and miss I have gone for Swagles fitting at the base swaged at the top (as I can not check it). So set up is 6mm twin forestays, 5mm fore shroud 6mm...
Graham, my Heard 23 "Plum" was built by Martin with two shrouds per side and no backstage. A few years ago I replaced the stays and checked the loading, using the formulas in the Riggers Apprentice book By Brion Toss which showed that the original 6mm 7x7 were boarder line but 6mm 1x19...
Hello Graham. On my Heard 23 they are all 10mm 3strand polyester.
Colin of "plum"
I last saw Estren when she was sitting in Martin Heard's yard, being wrapped up before being shipped to Canada.
Somewhere in the files I have a few pictures of Estren being prepared, and a copy of the inventory when she was sold shortly afterwards. I see that she had a waterproof forward...
Thanks, Brian!
We're buying Eliza, former Estreen, in Canada. It's from 1997 and I do expect some minor problems with the water barrier over the ply. However, I haven't seen the boat (except pictures), and no survey yet. But I'll do a serious refit after some months sailing.
We...
They had the usual continuity problems with filming at sea - successive shots would vary between port and starboard tack, for example! On the whole, though, I thought it was well done.
As for jib sheets - mine are led between the shrouds as this gives the most direct path when close-...
Bowsprit - I haven't been out in really big seas but when I sailed in the Solent we often had very short, steep seas and occasionally Victoria Ruth would bury her bowsprit as far as the stemhead. However, the bowsprit itself does not have much drag, and as the jib is cut fairly high, the sail...
I believe that my (28) mast was made from a couple of pieces of pine glued together, giving what is effectively a solid mast. They routed a slot down the aft face and then glued in a cover strip to leave a cable "trunk" running the length of the mast. I think the cover strip stops short of the...
I have a solid mast, posibly an old telegraph pole. Deck steped.
I'm still getting the odd standing order arriving, so I'm bringing this to members' attention again.
Usual guideline (bit like foresail sheets, etc) is to use whatever you think you can comfortably grip, as even a relatively small diameter is strong enough. Size is usually dictated by comfortable handling. From memory, I think my "28" halyards (all the same) are 12mm three-strand hemp-look...
My 28 has both - the yard installed wiring down the mast as per Aeolus (not surprising as they were built side-by-side!) but I have added extra bits that needed additional wires that weren't going to be easy to add to the mast channel, including sidelights attached to the shrouds. I have a deck-...